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El Space Mariachi
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Posted - 2014.10.16 11:39:00 -
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The other changes are pretty neat, agility nerf is good and standardisation of fitting and cargo is nice (although Nemesis and Manticore will always be garbage at bombing) although the HP increase is a little puzzling as I don't really think they needed any more. They're all negligible compared to the huge change that is the cloak mechanic change though. Either way, I don't see myself or any other members of my alliance other than our ISboxing CHEATERS bombing anything for the forseeable future. I'm sure baltec fleets the world over are rejoicing.
Can't say I'm too bothered overall, bombers were clearly far overstepping their role as a force multiplier and becoming an I-win button in a lot of situations. I feel that fiddling with decloak mechanics is the wrong way to go about changes though and would just make them useless. I would advocate instead for a reworking of signature radius mechanics so that bombs don't spell instant death for anything shield tanked or below a cruiser, but are still competitive.
I like the anti-capital void bomb though, although it's yet another nail in the coffin for solo roaming in an active tanked battleship as if getting swarmed by 600 frigates wasn't enough already. Now one bomb will completely kill a Marauder's capacitor and leave it dead in the water.
Altrue wrote:Interesting changes, definitely a nerf for multiboxers (at last!) even if they are not the only ones penalized. The anti-capital bomb seem a bit too weak in my opinion though, and I'm not a fan of the reduced warp speed, but the rest sounds nice, challenging and fair for everyone. GOOD JOB. 
You can configure ISboxed bomber squads to not decloak each other (with a little difficulty) under the new changes. You cannot do the same for 8 people working together in any reasonable amount of time as they now cannot take squad warps, have no way of telling where they are relative to other cloaked fleet members other than hoping and praying that they're ALL smart enough to follow orders, didn't warp through each other and got the ranges right. It's a lot of factors to go wrong when one person accidentally doesn't warp at the right range. The cloak change is a nerf to both ways of bombing, but it hurts non-ISboxers a lot more and will make bombing incredibly difficult in practical terms without third party software.
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El Space Mariachi
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Posted - 2014.10.16 11:54:00 -
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muhadin wrote:As someone who runs alot of accounts at once, and has used isboxer. I don't even know why ccp allows isboxer to be used.
The first major red flag should be that ISboxer is run on Inner Space which is used for botting in eve. The problems are not bombers, bombers were probably one of the most balanced things in eve. The problem is isboxer. Bombers already have counters to them, many bomber fleets have died, and there are too many nerfs to bombers all lumped together.
Also +1 on new dictor bubble.
CCP tolerate ISboxer because it adds subscriptions to their game, no other reason. I would be completely for preventing its use in PvP as other major MMOs have, and restricting it to PvE, if not banning it altogether.
I wouldn't say bombers are the most balanced ship in the game because they're capable wiping entire fleets with very little effort as it stands, but the cloak changes will bring them to the other end of the scale - near useless in the hands of actual players. 8 people simply CANNOT coordinate as well as one person using software that clones their mouse clicks, no matter their individual skill or how good friends they are irl
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El Space Mariachi
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:32:00 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:wheniaminspoce wrote:
*Accidentally dropping some RAM into a tractor unit
I'm here just to point out that the velocity which the hamburger left my mouth at when reading this caused permanent damage to the drywall.
it could happen to anyone
don't act like you've never dropped anything only to see a tractor unit instantly grab it and pull it away from your grasp leaving you no recourse but to shoot it
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El Space Mariachi
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:40:00 -
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Capqu wrote:
i don't know why i'm even in this thread tbh its not like anything i say matters
but then again nothing we do on this earth truly matters
might as well try
Capqu, let's see you grit those teeth
Listen up capqu, don't believe in yourself - believe in me. Believe in the Don who believes in you. He takes the hamfisted balance changes in his bare hands and endures the searing stupidity. A man's man sustained by strength of will. When you hear of the great Don, they're talking about me. Go beyond the bad metagame and kick bad reasoning to the kerb. That's how Love Squad rolls. Who the hell do you think I am?
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El Space Mariachi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 23:40:28 -
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I'm very glad you saw sense here with the decloak changes because they were an awful way of doing this, but please don't let this discourage you from giving bombers the nerf they need in future, especially those of the ISboxer variety.
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El Space Mariachi
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Posted - 2014.10.29 17:31:36 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:Ammzi wrote:Step in the right direction, Fozzie. Now we just need to get rid of ISBoxing bombers and we're good. oh you had to mention that didn't you... you had to go there... now they will be watching you... *hands him the special foil hat and a passport, ticket and sunglasses*... try to get out the back while you can.
*raises paw* ammzi is one of our most cancerous isboxers, he's immune to reprisals from CCP
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